The public debate in both Canada and the Netherlands whether to stay or leave Afghanistan has been weighed in the cost of both lives and treasure.
But for the Dutch there has been a lot of emphasis on treasure.
The enormous cost of the military mission - the biggest for the Netherlands since the Second World War - is a top of mind issue you hear from almost everyone here when Afghanistan is mentioned.
"We are a thrifty people," said Dick Pels, a political commentator and author from the University of Amsterdam.
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